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#1 dunefreak

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 08:57 AM

I just got back from Johnny Walkers picking up a season pass. There is a notice on the wall pertaining to a $500 fine and the season passes. So I asked Dusty what that is all about and he said the BLM has been going into camps checking passes for proof of purchase. I guess if the pass isn't yours or you can't prove it's your it is a $250-500 fine in addition to confiscating it of course. So now they want you to save your receipt to show as further proof. This is getting ridiculous. I guess we could tape the receipt to the pass, but that makes it nice and convenient for someone who might get their hands on my pass.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 09:07 AM

thats pretty damn dumb if you ask me.
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 09:20 AM

The sellers are required to put your licence number and name on the permits too. That can be rubberd off and replaced with another persons info. So I guess it another way to try and catch bad people. Time to look up my receipt!
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 11:47 AM

I bought my pass at Carter powerSports, they didn't write on the back, but I did. I guess I will have to look for my receipt just to be safe. The few times that I have been out there I haven't seen a ranger yet. I haven't seen tracks like they were looking either.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 06:08 PM

What about the weekend passes? The ones I get on Presidents weekend are those vinyl ones that stick to my windshield. No places to put any of that info.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 08:01 PM

What about the weekend passes? The ones I get on Presidents weekend are those vinyl ones that stick to my windshield. No places to put any of that info.


This was mostly directed at the season passes.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 08:34 PM

If you can borrow the pass from someone else. You certainly could borrow the receipt as well. How far can they go with it? :dunno:
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 08:49 PM

If you can borrow the pass from someone else. You certainly could borrow the receipt as well. How far can they go with it? :dunno:


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Posted 20 October 2011 - 09:13 PM

The receipt doesn't say who bought it? And if you bought the pass a month ago and no longer have the receipt??? ...dumb :shake:

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 10:18 PM

Next they will want to see a picture of you actually purchasing the pass, or maybe a drop of blood so they can use DNA to prove if it is yours or not. :finger:

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 11:52 PM

I could see this if the people in the specific camp are being a-holes or something. But, Especially on a busy weekend, i don't see them going to every camp to check. Plus it's got to be more of a scare tactic then anything because if you have a pass what can they really do? All you are really required is to have the season pass. I will carry my receipt just in case, but that is just dumb.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 07:16 AM

That really doesn't make sense. So I tapped the receipt to the back. But here's the kicker I didn't purchase it, my friend did. He bought 3 so his name is literally on the receipt.

I understand they dont want fraud or people duplicating them but the receipt thing is silly.


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Posted 21 October 2011 - 08:59 AM

That really doesn't make sense. So I tapped the receipt to the back. But here's the kicker I didn't purchase it, my friend did. He bought 3 so his name is literally on the receipt.

I understand they dont want fraud or people duplicating them but the receipt thing is silly.

I had someone else purchase mine as well. I am sure he only got one receipt. Are they trying to drive people away with this crap?
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 09:20 AM

Let's not let this blow up like a big balloon I am trying to find out what's going on with BLM, they have been in budget meetings all week. I will update as soon as can.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 09:57 AM

Thanks Terry. I'm sure there going to be reasonable. A pass is a pass in my opinion. On top of the receipt question can u also ask about lic plate number? I use my Moho and my truck for day trips so of course they won't match. I did see that the passes had that lady year and I was never questioned or did they look for that.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 10:09 AM

Thanks Terry. I'm sure there going to be reasonable. A pass is a pass in my opinion. On top of the receipt question can u also ask about lic plate number? I use my Moho and my truck for day trips so of course they won't match. I did see that the passes had that lady year and I was never questioned or did they look for that.

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I will check into that but it was discussed in a sub group meeting that the pass is the person's not the vehicles. So not to worry there. I have never been asked to see the back of my pass. It is taped in the corner of the M/H front window and they just check the color and waive me through. They may check camps but usually it's a drive by and they look for them in the window bt the real enforcement is at the outgoing gate. There were a couple changes to the pass to prevent conterfiting, that may be what your looking at.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 08:58 PM

Thanks for posting this. I never would of thought about keeping the receipt on me. Just to be safe, I put my receipt in my truck.
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 02:55 PM

I have not read the back of my new pass but there was no rule posted on last years pass saying you have to keep proof of purchase with you. If it does not say on the back I don't see how they could enforce an imaginary rule
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 02:57 PM

I have not read the back of my new pass but there was no rule posted on last years pass saying you have to keep proof of purchase with you. If it does not say on the back I don't see how they could enforce an imaginary rule besides that I paid an effin $170 for that pass and 2 Cali stickers there gonna have a hard time prying that out of my hands
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 06:53 PM

We have no proof of purchase because Heather won this years at the last clean up. Good luck trying to take it away.
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Posted 25 October 2011 - 01:59 PM

In talking to Larry today @ BLM he told me the passes are sold to the PERSON not the vehicle. Therefore if you have your name on the back and a License plate on the back but you choose to put it in your other vehicle it will still be ok. As long as the vehicle is registered to you or your in the vehicle displaying the pass there will be no issues. having the reciept (Kept seperate) will help if the pass is stolen, they will be able to trace the time and place of purchase should they catch someone using your pass so you can get it back.
Wiping the name off and plate # with brake cleaner etc. shows up as the plastic covering is designed to show that a chemical has been used. It is a way to make sure there is no counterfeiting(a problem in the past) and that the passes you have and are using are yours.
It is not a big deal unless you use the pass or obtained the pass illegally. Hope that clears that issue up! BTW the BLM is smoothing out the road as we speak and is waiting for water to come down the river in order to lay another top coat on the road.
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Posted 25 October 2011 - 02:16 PM

So I wonder what will happen in my case. Mike bought me my pass so technically its his and my truck is registered to my parents in Alaska??

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 02:32 PM

Aren't you married? if so put your married name on it and don't worry about it. I doubt that this is going to be a big enforcement deal. Unless there is another reason for them to be talking to you I doubt it will even come up.
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Posted 25 October 2011 - 02:48 PM

Aren't you married? if so put your married name on it and don't worry about it. I doubt that this is going to be a big enforcement deal. Unless there is another reason for them to be talking to you I doubt it will even come up.


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Posted 25 October 2011 - 02:55 PM

We are married in spirit. Does that count?

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 05:37 PM

We are married in spirit. Does that count?



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Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:01 PM

We are married in spirit. Does that count?


Works for me Mike. I really don't think this is going to be an issue. It's just to make sure that people who try to cheat the system can be detected. In all the time I have been through the gate they have NEVER looked nor asked to look at the back of the pass. Why don't you just put both last names on it and that should eliminate any problems.

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:38 PM

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 04:48 PM

If you walk down the street carrying a concealed weapon, there's no telling where you could go and the things you might get away with while doing it, if you don't draw attention to yourself.
The same is true about the passes. Don't draw attention to yourself if you can't put your name and license # on the back of your pass.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 08:38 AM

I have to chuckle about this one. When driving out of Dumont on Monday mid morning Halloween weekend, a white dually coming in, long after all of the LE"s had gone home, flagged me down to stop. It was Ron, the BLM maintenance guy and he asked to see my pass. I've talked to Ron several times and don't know if he really reconized me or not. I told him jokingly " I never buy a pass" and he responded "I don't believe you" and continued on his way into the dunes. I assume to clean the restrooms. BLM is financially down in Barstow so they have the maintenance people checking for passes too.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:25 PM

The last few years we were going to Dumont I must of forgot to buy my pass..

:finger: The B.L.M. and there B.S. with the pass programs.. I pay more in taxes than some people make in a year, all the bikes, quads and toys are reg current.. Were tired of the fees.. I got a ticket on the windsheld on my truck last year for not having a Forest Adventure Pass in my own mountains that I live in.. I threw it away and NOTHING has happened in over a year.. Those pass programs are a JOKE!

I had the B.L.M. come into our camp at the "King Of The Hammers" race a few weeks ago harassing my Girl friend and her and my kids checking our quads for current reg stickers.. I got back just in time to help with providing the officer with our current paperwork.. Than contacted his watch commander on how unprofessional that joke of a "cop" was.. Im sorry but I have no use for the B.L.M. Their just fake desert cops.. Jokes at that !! They should go out and see what REAL Cops do for a living.. LOL!

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:27 PM

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:56 PM

The last few years we were going to Dumont I must of forgot to buy my pass..

:finger: The B.L.M. and there B.S. with the pass programs.. I pay more in taxes than some people make in a year, all the bikes, quads and toys are reg current.. Were tired of the fees.. I got a ticket on the windsheld on my truck last year for not having a Forest Adventure Pass in my own mountains that I live in.. I threw it away and NOTHING has happened in over a year.. Those pass programs are a JOKE!

I had the B.L.M. come into our camp at the "King Of The Hammers" race a few weeks ago harassing my Girl friend and her and my kids checking our quads for current reg stickers.. I got back just in time to help with providing the officer with our current paperwork.. Than contacted his watch commander on how unprofessional that joke of a "cop" was.. Im sorry but I have no use for the B.L.M. Their just fake desert cops.. Jokes at that !! They should go out and see what REAL Cops do for a living.. LOL!


So what the hell does it matter what you pay in taxes and what does that have to do with your feelings toward Law Enforcement officer?That you should show such disrespect for a uniformed Law Enforcement Officer is downright wrong.. You may not like nor think that LEO's that are BLM rangers are deserving of any respect but to me it is a respect owed the uniform and badge.You don't buy a pass but I guarantee that you would be the first b*tch whining if you or your family member got injured severly enough for life saving assistance that "the BLM" wasn't on scene fast enough or quick enough to suit you. Well pal the LEO's deserve their pay and if you don't pay the fee's to use the area you will have no one to blame but yourself and the other folks who think the "Goverment " owes you something. There is no something for nothing in this world. I would respectfully suggest that you get over yourself and show some respect to the other people who do pay the fee's and play by the rules.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:09 PM

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