WOW! Thanks guys..... and gals... To be completley honest I dotn know exactly what Chris wants I just know chevy. Not sure what size. I definetly understand the saftey matter a whole bunch, I didnt want us to do the frame we knew we needed someone to do that for us. Buying one is still a definit (cant spell) consideration. I'm afraid building one will take a long time due to my boyfirend loves projects and already has a few.. Well the godd news is even though we dont have a rail we will still be at Dumont on Haloween!! With the bikes and quad.. We be the only crazy people out there in a tent LOL thanks everyone