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Sand Cars w/ S4 LS1 Set up is 2550lbs and have no problems duning, jumping, and running the whoops (sand or hard pack). Let me know if you want to get some prices together or a ride in one! Talk to you soon.

I remembered I forgot to reply to this! I am glad you asked this question. The car has 24 in the front and 18 in the rear, and 5 inches of ground clearance at full bump. The only way to achieve close to 23 in the rear is to set up the car with zero ground clearance or run a midboard with a longer axle or have a really wide car in the back. Anyways, thats all about that. I am glad we came to the same conclusion about not comparing the same car So prices cant be compared either! See you in the dunes where I am positive you would be surprised at how well our cars can hang with the light weight cars

Well here it is, and the last thing I wanted to do was get into a pissing match on this subject. I apologize for the delay... Tubing is $1000 more, brakes are $750.00 more (depending on the brand), Grade 12 bolts do matter so your s$$t doesnt brake, CNC is better (but just an opinion because time matters and costs money when you have to replace Jamar), never priced the difference in hanging pedals-but maybe a couple hundred and a lot more comfortable to drive, Howe is about 1200.00 more, and you THINK the midboards are more expensive, but do you know (did you consider the cost difference in 934 CV's w/ 300m cages), are there front and rear skid plates on theirs? Are they 1/8 in, 1/4 in, or 3/16 in (this costs money), a fifth seat is 250 more, what type of crow belts does he use?, fuel cell w/ internal bladder is probably 1200 more (but dont know what he uses), you are probably right about the paddles, and the engine is 1000.00 more (with the howe power steering pump), and again alot more comfortable to drive! Now for his car, how can you say that bypasses are more, you dont know what we charge for ours? Front beadlocks can range but would be 300.00 with us, you are right on the aluminum stuff, delete the midboard upgrade, and when did candy colors become an upgrade? They arent with us... And the chrome, (not sure of the price difference) So in the end, you can add up this misc B.S., but you have to realize that there are a lot of things that are not mentioned in base packages (i.e custom radiator mounts, billet mounting brackets, custom shifter knobs, the extensive wiring job that we do, types of rod ends used, cv stars that get machined, boot flanges that get machined, spindles that are heat treated, amount of tubing used which leads to more weld time, the type of steering column set up, what type of u-joints, labor hours in the full build process (this adds up quickly), the fact that all tubing is NC mandrel bent and CNC notched is almost priceless, the customer support and service is exceptional (ask any of my customers) etc, etc. As I have said, its not that they build a bad car, its that we feel different components are necessary so that you dont have the problems down the road. But if your looking for just a sand car, then this isnt the type of car you need. Its much more than just a sand car, and would suggest looking at the two cars more extensively side by side. I did at the show, and I now know this post is meaningless. But who am I Again I apologize for the delay and thanks to everyone who posted for me in the meantime! Now I have to get ready for a customer appreciation weekend! See you in the dunes.

I will be responding to this...just have a lot of stuff going on right now with the show! Check back Monday! I know how you guys are if someone doesnt respond

First off we need to make sure we are comparing the same packages: Our base package is $59,999 and the $65,000 number was used earlier in the post, so I went with it and it would allow someone to have a few more options on top of the base package! Now to compare with the above list to justify to you the additional $11,500. 1.75" Tubing 2" Hollow Spindles w/ Kar Tek Hubs GRADE 12 Suspension Hardware and Grade 8 on everything else CNC Cutting Brake CNC HANGING Pedal Assy w/ 3 EZ Fill Tall Masters HOWE 2.5 Power Rack and Pinion w/ Control Valve Howe Power Steering Pump 934 Kar Tek Hubs 934 CV's and Axles w/ 300M Cages Front and FULL Rear (Covers motor and Trans) Skid Plates 5 Bucket Seats CROW 3X3 5 Point Harnesses Fuel Safe Fuel Cell w/ Internal Bladder (not just foam baffle) STU SB 33 Paddles 4 Piston Front Brakes 410 HP Turnkey Engine All of these things listed are what would be an upgrade off their list to match ours. There are some things that are included with their package that we dont in ours, but we feel that the above components are more important than having chrome a-arms and a wing trunk. I am not saying that their cars or package that they offer is a bad one, just our opinion of what should be included with a desert/sand car.

The four seater will be more of a sandcar. We could do what all the other manufacturers do and try to call it a five seater, but that's why we have five bucket seats in the other car. It seats five adults comfortably, not 2 adults and three kids. So the four seater will seat four adults comfortably, and be offered with less components and options than our five seater, therefore making it more affordable but not sacrificing the strength factor in the sand.

I would have to disagree here, but only if you are talking about new cars. All components cost the same, so the manufacturers that are selling cars cheaper, have cheaper or even less components on them-by the way I am not saying this is a bad thing for the sand guys. So in the end, it is not the same car.

We also do financing. We are still working out the final details of the four seater, but should be available around the end of October. E mail me at justin@trickracingproducts.com with some contact info, and I will send you over some stuff when the detail are finished!

Its an 1.75 Car to start with along with the arms are 1.75. It also comes with tie rods, spindles (heat treated), hardware, rod ends w/ over 250 ft of lineal tubing. STRONG! Everything is NC Mandrel Bent and then CNC Notched for precise measurements. Your getting the best of the best.

Heres a quote for you! Inv00000343.pdf ROLLING_CHASSIS_PACKAGE.doc

Still waiting for the deposit! We can make you a better deal on two! :headbang:

Better deals arent always a good thing...We've all learned that lesson in life!

We have a new four seater coming out that should be in that price range!

We'll build you a brand new one for $65,000 and you can have it by Thankgiving! Justin Trick Racing Products www.trickracingproducts.com