I'll check that out. I am using an Archos AV 500 (DVR I think). I was just using my DVDR and recording it to DVD, but My editing sucks. I also figured out how to save to Windows media player, but can't edit and the files seem to be large (probably that AVI). I am working on it. At the very least I have some DVDR with bad editing that could probably be used. I just took about 10 hours of unedited video and recorded random clips to it. The trouble with that is that it won't play on all DVD players. I don't know if that is a problem or not. Thanks for the help, I'll check on your editing program. Let me know if you have any other ideas.