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Mineurbiz...."I remember a few years back, a couple LEO's tried to go have fun with the duners, bringing two of the dirt bikes to the hill and racing. What do you think that got them, nothing but grief, funny people like you want to complain about them, then when the relax and have fun with the duners people b*tch then too."........ya, I got a write up for that one!!! Lol

Mineurbiz, thanks for saying what needed to be said. The fee demo program has been beaten to death. Washington DC imposed it, we fought it we lost. Now if you want something for your money except access you have to go through BLM for it and that's another stone wall. Blown72, I gave you examples of some of the issues that face Dumont but the vast majority of duners at Dumont agree that the LEO's out there are much better than at Glamis and that although the road grader is not something "you think we need" there are many of us on here that went down that road 40 years ago leaving pieces of motorhomes and vehicles to get to the flats. With all the high dollar equipment that comes in there a smooth road is not to much to ask for. Just because I dune does not mean that I like my sh*t beat up before I get there. Blown72 i think you are just pissed you got caught with sh*t at the dunes where you thought you could go do what ever you wanted and found out you can't. Sorry but it is the way life works. I have tried to be a steward of the area for a long time and this Barstow BLM manager drove me away fronm it. It's to bad the last one got promoted as she was a true representative of what a Federal Employee should be. You guys are stuck with what you have till the US Government raises her to the top of the "Peter Principle :>

Crowdog got some shots yesterday while some of the guys did some test n tune for the SxS Wars.

Don't have a gun (or at least in plain sight), don't gamble for money out in the open, and don't have drugs. Maybe I missed something, but this seems like you get yourself harassed vs the LEO's being the problem. I like the others above have never been harassed in Dumont and I have been going for a long time. We had one stop in our camp twice this weekend and he was very nice and very informative, we did not know him, but glad to have talked to him. I think you should visit Glamis if you think the LEO's in Dumont are bad. I don't think one person said anything about needing government involved, but it is nice to have the emergency services our there, to help get people to the hospital by ambulance or airlift. I also don't think you have clue one on the road situation, do you realize that if they don't maintain that road and keep the dust partially down, that the tree huggers try and come in to shut it down, talking about the dust that is getting on the plants due to everyone driving down that road? Evolution, the machines have become for more powerful than the days of old, people are more aggressive and pushing these machines to the limit, potentially contributing to more injuries. Because of this, it is nice to have the LEO's out there to help and no they cannot be everywhere, they are on a limited budget for the Sheriffs office, about 65k a year to operate out there. I don't always agree with everything that they do out there or how every LEO acts, but I think for the most part, they are a pretty good group. I remember a few years back, a couple LEO's tried to go have fun with the duners, bringing two of the dirt bikes to the hill and racing. What do you think that got them, nothing but grief, funny people like you want to complain about them, then when the relax and have fun with the duners people b*tch then too.

Some killer night shots by Jason Wink

I've never had an issue with BLM. Not much interaction either. Now the Sherrifs I have had many interactions and all 100% positive. I actually go out of my way to talk to the Sherrifs those are some cool dudes.

This camp sounds like fun. I think we can all agree there are some bad apples in the BLM or law enforcement in general. I have had my own bad experiences with them in the past, but I don't feel the department as a whole is out to harass duners unless they give them good reason to.

Ok, I am going to jump in here even though I haven't been to Dumont in the last 14 months. I left duning not because of the LEO but partly because I had been dealing with the BLM in a political manner for the previous 10 years. I saw a lot of good relationships built with BLM and when the LEO's got a little heavy than a phone call to the area manager brought results and things calmed down. On the big weekends they were bringing in LEO's from Vegas (BLM Vegas is very anti- off road) and there were some heavy handed issues. This was resolved fairly quickly and life at Dumont continued. However when the new manager things started to change, her attitude is not one of cooperation with duner's and I believe she manages Dumont with little to no thought of what the duners want. That is my opinion from being on the sub-group with her since her arrival in Barstow. As to your case Blown72, you have to own what happened. It's illegal to have a weapon in Ca. There are very few CCW holders in Ca. and they have very strange rules about seperating clips from weapons and you than add in the weed and wonder why you may have gotten attitude? You never know why or what a LEO see's as Probable cause. Maybe someone outside your trailer when he drove by was taking a leak next to the trailer or there could be any multitude of reasons for him to poke his head into your trailer. But when he see's a weapon, weed and a bunch of guys in an enclosed area and probably cannot see all your hands his sense of danger goes through the roof. It sounds like your trying to blame BLM for your lack of common sense and having an exposed weapon and weed in plain sight kinda supports the case for the LEO's. If you were smoking the weed and he approached the trailer it is going to smell like weed. It's in my opinion on you and your crew in this case. Think about it from his view for a second, he for what ever reason decides to check out something that caught his attention, he approaches a trailer , see's a weapon and weed lying in plain sight and his closest back up is 60 miles away and he is out manned several to one, what else would you expect him to do but put on his hard case attitude to make sure you guys were aware he was in control. It's a law enforcement way of staying alive. You can give up on the dunes and blame it on BLM but you need to look in the mirror to see who's responsible for what happened. I gave up duning after 40 years for a lot of reasons but none of them was because of Law Enforcement. if one of you had or have been hurt at Dumont I will guarantee you will be very happy to have them on scene helping you out. The needs at Dumont have slowed down because traffic has slowed down, there is not the rush that was a few years ago and to be blunt, the serious family duners are glad that's it back to the way it used to be before everybody and their brother re-financed there home, bought expensive OHV's and trailers and went to Dumont and thought there was no rules. If you had quit back then, I am sure no one on this forum would blame you. If you decide to quit now due to one or 2 run in's with LEO's than I have to lean on it's more to the real story than your admitting. So no one on here is judging you and you have to make up your own mind on it, but as for me it would appear from your post that you owned that one.

I have be going to Dumont sense 1993 and have never had any problems with the BLM or sheriffs .

I've never had any issues like that at Dumont. When did this harassment and searching go on?