yes i agree, but i have went through several sets of these and they are just terrible, so i was just venting my frustration with this style of tire.....was never intending to hurt the guys sell...but I guess it was not helpful....I just hate to see people spend money on junk, and maybe can help out the next guy on buying junk.....but i was just responding to andydew comment on how good they are, not the actual seller......