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The road has been like this for years, we all know this. Its not THAT hard to slow the down. If you don't like the road, don't come out to play, go someplace else that has pavement all the way up to the dunes, so you can just unload on the nice pretty pavement and then go out into the dusty dirty terrible sand and get your pretty toys all dirty and dusty while you are having a blast. Maybe they will have some washing stations installed too, so that those people who get too dusty playing in the sand can wash down all their pretty toys. The dunes have trash left enough as it is with people who actually use the dunes and supposedly care about using the dunes. Can you imagine how much more trash there would be if the road was paved? Or how much of a fight we would have on keeping the dunes open, because people in their Prius' are all upset that after driving all that way on that pretty paved road, to see the pristine sand dunes, pay their fee to get in and all they find is a bunch of quads, rails and rzr's polluting the air and tearing up and making tracks all over the poor defenseless sand dunes? Hey while we are at it... maybe we should have them pave the whole camp area, put in full hook ups, flush toilets, and showers.... hmmm I think the average RV Park costs about $60.00 a NIGHT.. I could be wrong on that though...I don't spend much time in RV Parks, I like to go off road and dune...

Road is being worked on and they just put $75,000.00 worth of new type II down so it should be smooth sailing. So you think $40.00 is to much to charge for 7 days of camping and access to one of the worlds greatest OHV areas? You'll burn more than that in fuel just having fun!

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Slow down is 100% correct. Speed wears the road down and causes washboards much faster. Paved parking? Comfort? Swimming pool and miniature golf? Count me in!

You know what they should do? Pave the road.

Yes what Sand Chick said .... I love the dunes. I have only been into dune sports for the past 12 or so years (well, I'm told we did it as kids too at ISDRA, but I don't remember) but in that time alone I have watched it change and change and change. There use to be the unwritten rules of duner etiquette since we are all there enjoying the same thing, but this past Halloween I saw a lot of bad element, azzholes, punkazzes there to just party, steal, and just leave their trash behind. Don't get me wrong -- I like to party, but the Girl Scout in me comes out when it comes to trash and common courtesy. I can't imagine how bad it would be if I had to put up with Prius people AND thuggery all because of easy access. Well, it is kinda of funny when I see the rented mini-van full of tourists cutting out across the sand just to get stuck.

What Bert says about the speed is exactly right. It causes the acceleration and braking bumps on the road. I don't know why the dirt road becomes a speedway, if you already drove X amount of hours and have confirmed by visual that the dunes have not left why does it become such an all fired hurry to get to the campsite?

Don't mean to be negative. I have been a road worker most of my life so I can't help but to evaluate roads. I do appreciate the fact that they try to do the best with what they have. Just like a friend of mine. Did ceilings his whole life and can't help looking up anytime he walks into a building.

New it would bring you in Svengoolie, your always good for finding the negative at anything we try to do at Dumont. Let's see $40k per mile road is approx. 6 miles long, simple math=$240,000.00 Yeah the fee demo plan only generates about $500K per year so we should take approx. half to make sure you get a comfy ride in and out of a OHV area? Yes type II is not the long term answer but it is the right now answer that we can afford so let fly from here!!

That works for me. He will make all our stuff look that much better. LOL