I found my limit 2 pres days ago. Took off from camp at night, heading to comp. Thought I was on the backside long hill up the back of comp. Well I wasn't! 3rd gear pinned, looked back to see where Craig and Ross were, and when I looked back up, nothing but darkness. Landed at the bottom. I got real lucky. I ended up just jamming my shoulder into the socket which craked the ball of my shoulder. Damn that sucked having to get up into my truck and drive. It was before I added the power steps, so I needed that arm to help scoot over in the seat. Just be carefull. It still hurts me to this day when I only get a foot or two of air.