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If you’re going to buy on line from a company other than the big box stores, or a specialty store that just sells something like water filters, you have to expect it. In our policies statement we even say we ship from the closest warehouse, however no one EVER reads our policies. Most or our customers don't care where we get it, or how we get it, they just want it yesterday for the price promised. You would be amazed at the people who order a full set of tires and wheels on a Wed and want it by Friday for the big trip. We have almost 4000 items, we can't even show if the item is in stock or not. Since we would have to comb through each and every on-line item and compare it to the 14 warehouses to see if it is in stock. It is an impossible task for a small business to do. So we don't show that an item is in stock or not. Keep in mind, small business keeps the big guys prices in check. It was us small retailers that got the big places like Rocky Mountain ATV and Dennis Kirk to finally offer free shipping. If I got anywhere close to retail for the items we sell, I could afford to hire more people to do inventory on the web site. Thing like tire and wheel kits, with all the home based people selling them, just to keep competitive, we are lucky to hold a 15% gross.

Our system does not even authorize the card. Most carts I have used have an off line payment method. It just collects the info. If the item is available either from us direct or by our suppliers and it can be shipped by the next day (if ordered to late to be shipped that day) the card is charged. That way if we have a large ticket order and it is not in stock, it does not tie up the money like an authorization does. Some don't have an extra 800.00 bucks available on their CC's to order from someplace else. This works really well for us and keeps the customers happy. If I'm paying by pay-pal, I always see if it is available before I order.

For most businesses it is impossible to stock everything they sell especially if they offer a lot of different items. If that was the requirement, most small family on-line businesses would be out of business. This is true for our business as well. Most people who shop on line are looking for the best deal they can get or something they can't get anywhere local. Many people will shop us on-line and call to place the order. That is always an option to see if something is available. When we 1st started, our online system processed the CC's automatically and if we did not have that item in stock or it was on back order, it tied up the customers money for at least 10 days. (Authorization). This pissed off the customer. All shopping carts not set up to process orders manually will at least authorize the CC. If you pay with pay-pal, pay-pal charges the order when you place it. We have no control over it. Google checkout will authorize the card and the store charges (completes) the order when it wants to, either when shipped or however they want to do it. Our system only collects the info. We charge all cards manually if the product is in stock and either drop ship it or have it sent to our store for shipment if it is something we normally do not stock. If the item is on back order, we let the customer know so he can either hold it or cancel his order and since we did not chage his card, there is no refund to do. We stock items that sell well and are hard to get. If it is something that is readily available from the one of the 14 warehouses we buy from we have it shipped direct. This has worked very well for us as usually the customer gets it faster, from a warehouse closer to the customer. Drop shipping saves us from having to spend millions on inventory then keeping track of it, which costs thousands of dollars. As long as it is done right, the customer gets is fast and at a larger savings. Depending on the items, most or our customers get their stuff in 1 to 3 days.

Oh yea? Well IF we get this on we will be able to drive'em on roads with aposted speed limit of 35 MPH so Na Na Na Na

Boulder City squashed it soon as more started doing it.

This is the new law. What I was looking for was the old law. I'm trying to fugure out exactly how AZ registered ATV and side by sides as motorcycles, when the AZ law defining a MC is the same as ours. Both laws define a MC as having no more than 3 wheels. The new law is a restricted plate and reduces where the atvs and side by sides can be ridden. Under the old law, as I understand it, side by sides were registered as a MC with no restrictions. I'm also curious if you can still get the side by side registered without the restricted plate.

It is very frustrating. These are the same arguments and responses brought up under the old administration 6 or 8 months ago. Having talked with the NHTSA and being sent the legal interpretations from the same, DMV is wrong on many of their assertions. I can't figure out how Arizona gets the ATVs on the road as motorcycles since AZ MC law is the same as ours. (No More than 3 wheels) I can't find any law in AZ that allows registration of all the things they do register.

I have a meeeting in Caron City on the 24th of this month with Senator Hardy And DMV officials. I received the DMV's 5 points and it is the exact same already discussed. 1. The Department of Motor Vehicles does not register or title vehicles that are labeled and manufactured for off-road use only. This process would be inconsistent with the Department’s purpose. Actually the DMV does register vehicles labeled and manufactured for off-road use only. Dirt bike motorcycles can be converted to on-road motorcycles and are registered by the State of Nevada. 2. These vehicles are not designed by the manufacturer or approved by NHTSA for on-highway use. The State must be willing to accept liability in the event of serious injury or death if we allow them to operate on roads within the state* When the vehicle is modified for on-road use the vehicle is approved by the NHTSA as long as it meets the applicable FMVSS. The manufacture states as it originally produced the vehicles, they are not for on-road use as they don’t meet the FMVSS. Please see (a,b) below. 3. Nevada may potentially lose Federal highway funds if these vehicles are registered and allowed to operate on Nevada’s roadways. Since it is legal to convert these vehicles as long as it meets the FMVSS at the time of conversion, it is impossible for Nevada to lose our federal highway funds as long as the vehicle meets the FMVSS. For LSV’s the applicable FMVSS is 571:500 4. Federal regulations and the manufacturers of these vehicles prohibit or recommend against the use of these vehicles on roadways. 5. A low-speed vehicle cannot, by Federal regulation, be modified to meet the specifications of a low speed vehicle. Item 4 is misleading and 5 is just plain wrong. According to NTHSA legal counsel on the legality of conversion of these vehicles. Any off-road vehicle can be modified or converted for on-road use including a low speed vehicle as long as it conforms to the FMVSS for the type of vehicle it is being registered as. The NHTSA objections are only if it is operated on the street before being modified to meet applicable FMVSS. I have included excerpts from letters on this from NHTSA Legal Council. See exhibits a and b (a) Because conventional golf carts are not motor vehicles, they are not subject to any FMVSS as originally manufactured. Therefore, a conventional golf cart cannot be taken out of compliance with an FMVSS, because none apply. As such, the "make inoperative" provision does not apply. The act of modifying a golf cart for use on the public roads would, however, create a motor vehicle to which new-vehicle FMVSSs would become applicable at the time of the modification. For purposes of compliance with NHTSA’s regulations, we would regard the (1) modifier as the manufacturer. As a motor vehicle manufacturer, the modifier would be responsible for certifying that the vehicle conformed to all applicable safety standards. These would vary depending on whether the vehicle was an LSV or some other type of motor vehicle. Jacqueline Glassman Chief Counsel Enclosure ref:500 d.4/16/04 (b) The issue of whether the ATVs were required to comply with the Federal motor vehicle safety standards is dependent on whether they are considered "motor vehicles." I have enclosed several interpretation letters which address the criteria which NHTSA applies in determining whether a vehicle with on and off-road capability is a motor vehicle (addressed to Mr. Matthew Plache, dated December 3, 1991; Mr. Hiroshi Kato, dated October 31, 1988; Mr. Wayne Kirby, dated February 8, 1983; and Mr. Leonard Fink, dated March 25, 1982). If an ATV is a motor vehicle, it must be certified to comply with all applicable safety standards. John Womack Acting Chief Counsel Enclosures ref:VSA d:9/19/95 (1) The manufacture would be the owner if the vehicle is owner modified. There is no formal certification that an owner-modifier must submit to the NHTSA or DOT, However the state may require certification as it does with other modified vehicles thru the RD-64 form. Just to head off another item that has been brought up in the past, is the issue of low speed vehicles with cargo beds not being able to registered as an LSV. Some of the GEM Cars have cargo beds. According to Stu Seigel of the NHTSA this has been superseded. VIA e-mail from Stu Seigel NHTSA: First see the attached document which is the current regulation concerning LSV’s. It is noted that there is no discussion or restriction for a pickup bed as this was a requirement that has been superseded. *Idaho provided the following response to our questionnaire regard their OHV program and liability: “They are restricted from interstates because lawmakers were afraid they could lose federal funding. When asked about the possibility of lawsuits, given that many manufacturers state specifically the units are meant for off-road use only, he said that is a question for the legislators. He would hope they have thought of that.” With Idaho’s OHV program which includes ATV’s and UTV’s as written, the ATV’s and side by sides do not meet any FMVSS. Since Idaho does not require seat belts, turn signals or windshield, I can’t find any FMVSS that Idaho’s law would meet. Even a street licensed motorcycle must have turn signals. Since Idaho is allowing ATV’s and Side By Sides that do not meet FMVSS, In my opinion Idaho has much more liability than Nevada. SB179 requires owners who wish to register their side by sides and golf carts as LSV’s, be in full compliance with 571:500 and in doing so would meet FMVSS. Side by sides and golf carts modified to FMVSS would be excluded from interstate and controlled access freeways simply because of the 35 MPH limit of roads they may travel.

Yea what he said.... I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not impressed. :freakin_nuts: Then again....hmmm I wonder if we can ditch the rear seat and get some leg room? I waiting to see what CanAm rolls out.

A Rep from Badass Golf Carts and myself testified today in support of SB179. It seemed to go well, but you know politicians..... :freakin_nuts: You never know what they are thinking. Anyhow nothing new to report, the DMV says it has 5 points of contention that needs to be addressed; however they did not say what those are at the meeting. There was a news program on TV last night about people living in the state and not paying for registration in Nevada. One of the reps asked me if she heard me right and I wanted to pay registration fees to put these on the road and I said yes. She seemed to be in favor and I think she was making a point in a roundabout way that was agreeing with what I was saying about increased revenue for the state. Just a little side note, Don (Dumont Host) was here today picking up his Rhino and was asking about a person with a Rhino who had a Nevada Plate on it. I think it was Pat D..... Red White And Blue Rhino. Anyhow I'm trying to find out more info if this is true. Don is going to find him and see if he will call me. I don't think I embarassed myself to much at the meeting with my mumble F!@@#k speak :?: when I get nervious lol I'll keep everyone posted.... Craig

We have a hiccup in our bill. Basically no one has listen to me in 3 years. Senator Hardy had a meeting with the DMV and the DMV stated that even if the bill passed the DMV may still not be able to register our Side by Sides and golf carts as LSV’s because the manufacture says it is for off road use only. For almost 3 years, I have been telling everyone that the DMV does register off road vehicles that the manufacture does not recognize as a off road vehicle. If you buy a dirt bike, that was never intended for on road use, the owner can buy a kit that has the lights and turn signals and accessories for on road use and the DMV registers it. Every time I have asked the DMV about this they have not addressed it, just ignoring it. If you are planning to speak at tomorrow’s meeting Senator Hardy has asked me just to bring on one other person. I have chosen a person from the golf cart industry to speak. Badass Golf Cars has a golf cart that meets LSV requirements and is manufactured as a LSV in California with the MSO that states it is a LSV but the DMV has stated it will not register it because it is a golf cart. This is totally different than what the DMV has told me when it comes to LSV’s and manufactures. Also anyone wishing to view tomorrow’s meeting may do so on line at http://leg.state.nv.us/audio/AudioVideo.cfm I don’t know if these links will work tomorrow but look for the below info to view from the page above. 03/13/09 8:00 AM Senate Energy, Infrastructure and Transportation Room 2135 of the Legislative Building, 401 S. Carson St., Carson City, NV. Videoconference to 4412E of the Grant Sawyer State Office Building, 555 E. Washington Ave., Las Vegas, NV. View (low speed) View (high speed) Listen AGENDA 1 Please keep in mind I’m not a public speaker…so go easy on me. I get nervous lol

Senator Warren Hardy as promised intoduced SB179 to modifiy the law to allow modified side by sides to be registered as a low speed vehicle. I, and I assume other interested parties my be called to testify the Friday 03/13/09 in support of the bill in Las Vegas VIA teleconference. Anyone wishing to do so as well, please drop me a note a LSV@xoatv.com. We were wanting golf carts to be registered as well, and make sure 4 seater Side By Sides are included, so when I speak to Senator Hardy, it will see if we can get these included. Copy of Bill SB179 REQUIRES TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY VOTE (§ 1 + NRS 482.480) S.B. 179 - *SB179* SENATE BILL NO. 179–SENATOR HARDY MARCH 9, 2009 ____________ Referred to Committee on Energy, Infrastructure and Transportation SUMMARY—Expands the definition of a low-speed vehicle to include certain utility terrain vehicles. (BDR 43-904) FISCAL NOTE: Effect on Local Government: Increases or Newly Provides for Term of Imprisonment in County or City Jail or Detention Facility. Effect on the State: Yes. ~ EXPLANATION – Matter in bolded italics is new; matter between brackets [omitted material] is material to be omitted. AN ACT relating to motor vehicles; expanding the definition of a low-speed vehicle to include certain utility terrain vehicles; providing a penalty; and providing other matters properly relating thereto. Legislative Counsel’s Digest: 1 Existing law allows a low-speed vehicle which has been registered with the 2 Department of Motor Vehicles to be operated on a highway where the speed limit is 3 35 miles per hour or less. (NRS 484.527) This bill expands the definition of a low4 speed vehicle to include a utility terrain vehicle which has been modified to comply 5 with the standards for safety of a low-speed vehicle set forth in Federal Motor 6 Vehicle Safety Standard No. 500 at 49 C.F.R. § 571.500. THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEVADA, REPRESENTED IN SENATE AND ASSEMBLY, DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS: 1 Section 1. NRS 484.527 is hereby amended to read as follows: 2 484.527 1. As used in this section [, “low-speed] : 3 (a) “Low-speed vehicle” means a motor vehicle: 4 [(a)] (1) Designed to carry not more than four persons; 5 [(B)] (2) Designed to operate at a maximum speed of at least 6 20 but not more than 25 miles per hour; 7 [©] (3) Having at least four wheels in contact with the 8 ground; – 2 – - *SB179* 1 [(d)] (4) Having an unladen weight of less than 1,800 2 pounds; and 3 [(e)] (5) Complying with the standards for safety of such a 4 vehicle set forth in Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 500 5 at 49 C.F.R. § 571.500. 6 The term includes a utility terrain vehicle which has been 7 modified to comply with the standards specified in 8 subparagraph (5). 9 (B) “Utility terrain vehicle” means a motor vehicle: 10 (1) Designed with a roll cage and two seats installed side by 11 side; 12 (2) Designed to be driven on a variety of terrains; 13 (3) Having at least four wheels in contact with the ground; 14 and 15 (4) Having the capability of four-wheel drive. 16 2. If registered, a low-speed vehicle may be operated upon a 17 highway where the posted speed limit is 35 miles per hour or less. A 18 person shall not operate a low-speed vehicle upon a highway where 19 the posted speed limit is greater than 35 miles per hour, except to 20 cross such a highway at an intersection. 21 Sec. 2. This act becomes effective: 22 1. Upon passage and approval for the purpose of adopting 23 regulations and performing any other preparatory administrative 24 tasks that are necessary to carry out the provisions of this act; and 25 2. On January 1, 2010, for all other purposes. H

If your running a high compression piston, you should be running a min of 100 octane. I run a mix of rebel 100 from the pump and 110 race fuel. We built the "Rescue Rhino" for Don (Camp hosts) and we was running the 91 with octane booster and melted the piston where it seized the rings. Since we fixed it and he is running the better fuel, his has been running for 2 years now and Don runs it pretty hard all season long. I run a dual carb setup on my Rhino. While it works well, I don't think it works much better if any over the Mukini 45. I have really not ben able to justify the duals cost to our customers so I don't push it. For anyone thinking of spending that kinda money, I'd put it into head work and a HSR 45.

Too much power for me (holy $h!t jealous look) Looks nice. Congrats! Ok now that ya got it, you gonna bring it out to Dumont this weekend? Like to see it.

Ya never know what the weather is going to be like in the hole.. I think it was Halloween, It was raining in Vegas, raining in So-Cal and just a little rain one night at Dumont.

Thanks Man! I'm glad some of it's good! So I guess this means I'm not a blabbering idiot like my wife says I am! See honey, I don't droll on and on about stuff and I do know what Im talking about, even though sometimes when I discussing a subject that I have limited knowledge of the formentioned subj........ :blonde:

Not to pick over a dead corpse, however xtreme and our Extreme Outdoors in Boulder City is different. I had several people tell me they thought we were one in the same.

And while on the subject, thanks for the blurb about the speed limit on Vendors Row. This ares is a lot more dusty than our old location. I'm waiting for someone to do a wheelie or something and run into a crowd of people, and then the rangers will take notice. It would be nice if they took notice before it happens, but you know how that goes.

You may need a new supplier! We have never sold the CF wheels, but have seen a few crack on some sport quads. Had one in the shop a few months ago dropped off for repair. It was not the tire but the wheel cracked across the wheel from bead to bead. I did not pay attention to who made it.

The stock fuel pump is capable of putting out enough fuel for your mods. It is possible that your jetted to rich, and why it does not do it on the flats is because you have more engine RPM to handle the fuel. Usually when the filter or pump is the problem, it will happen on the flats and it will force you to run part throttle for a bit refilling the bowl, then you can open it up and when the bowl dumps again the same problem reoccurs. I ran the stock pump with a 686 dual carb setup and NOS and it kept up fine. When mine was going out it did it both on the flats and the hills. I'm running electric now but it gets noisy and I don't trust it. I may go back to a high flow vacuum pump.

Thats the ones I saw

Every time we leave the dunes we as many of you, see full bags of trash on the side of the road that have blown out of pick-up beds and open trailers. Somehow we need to make people aware that while it is appreciated when packing it out, they also need to make sure it is secured so it does not blow out of their vehicles when going home. Trash bags need to be tied off or secured with a heavy objects on top or placed inside a enclosed trailer for the trip home.

Hurry! There is a 200 foot spider in the large bowl. It just grabbed a RV and pulled it back into the hole. I bet your wife is just itching for a little trigger time on the 50! Things are heating up around here, I think it's feeding time. God help us all!

How did you know we had mushrooms? We brought them for the salad and they were running around on the floor like roaches and they have razor sharp teeth. We are not eating anything... The ham in the fridge chewed off 2 of my sons fingers. Nothing is as it appears!

Dune Demon? I think your one of them. Like the headless atv rider out here. If we survive, I'm never coming to Dumont again on Halloween!