Free Agent Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 The Toy haulers we're considering won't hold even half our rolling stock. Our MoHo owning horror story adventures have turned us off to even considering them anymore. Any takes on towing the utility trailer behind the 5'er? Quote
wingnut Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Before you consider it, check the length laws for the states you will be towing in. Quote
80grit Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 (edited) A friend of mine pulled doubles out to Dumont for years. He had a Dmax, 5th wheel and 20 foot enclosed behind that. It put a lot of strain on the middle 5th wheel. He would blow tires until he flipped the axles and put 16 inch tires on the trailer. Then he bent the back bumper so he had to send it in to be welded for reinforcement. When you look at his 5th wheel now, it looks tweeked. Just dont think they were designed for that. They are not built like a commercial truck trailer. Maybe look at a big stacker type configuration. Edited September 8, 2009 by 80grit Quote
avduner Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 My buddy did it for a couple of years until he got stuck one time and couldn't back out! I 've done it once and did not like the way it felt towing. Quote
sxcross Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 My buddy did it for a couple of years until he got stuck one time and couldn't back out! I 've done it once and did not like the way it felt towing. I pull ball to ball 28' tt with 12' flat bed pulls ok for me, I don't pull to dumont that way only Amargoosa since the route is much friendlier, I see plenty of 5er's with a trailer behind them just can't go with too big of a trailer. If I had a 5er I would pull anywhere it's much easier of a pull than with a ball. Quote
badams270 Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) Someone correct me if I am wrong, but dont you need a cdl to do that? Edited September 9, 2009 by badams270 Quote
barefoot bob Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) ive done it 3 of my buddies have done it keep it around 55 60 youll be ok better watch the 5er thow 1 freind started pulling his frame apart on the 5er. Edited September 9, 2009 by barefoot bob Quote
sanddunesaddict Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 I pull ball to ball 28' tt with 12' flat bed pulls ok for me, I don't pull to dumont that way only Amargoosa since the route is much friendlier, I see plenty of 5er's with a trailer behind them just can't go with too big of a trailer. If I had a 5er I would pull anywhere it's much easier of a pull than with a ball. I thought you could tow doubles as long as the first trailer was/is a 5th wheel. It is not legal any other way?????? Quote
stock 350 Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) I do it all the time! I have a 30 ft fifth wheel and a single axle 12 ft utilty trailer, although my 5th wheel has a heavy duty frame I make sure to balance the load on the utility trailer very evenly not putting to much wt on the tongue ! it pulls great , But even with a well built hitch i still wouldnt put much more wt than a rhino or three quads on it or u will damage the frame IMO! Edited September 9, 2009 by stock 350 Quote
stock 350 Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 yes u can pull 2 pull trailers but u must have a doubles endorsment ! Quote
jorgeloco Posted September 11, 2009 Posted September 11, 2009 I thought you could tow doubles as long as the first trailer was/is a 5th wheel. It is not legal any other way?????? bert you are right and a least in ca you need to be 60 feet long Quote
stock 350 Posted September 12, 2009 Posted September 12, 2009 (edited) you can do this with a class A and the correct endorsment in CA Edited September 12, 2009 by stock 350 Quote
KRUSTY Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 you can do this with a class A and the correct endorsment in CA yes you can brakes on all axles I wouldnt with a 1/2 ton pick up Quote
JasonR Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 ok here is the law...first off you have to have doubles endorsement to pull doubles. if you have a fifth wheel and your pulling a trailer behind it...the trailer hitch can be a ball type hitch as long as its welded and permanently installed. total length can be 60 feet in this configuration. you can pull with two ball hitch's as long as the first one is welded and length can not be longer then 50ft. highly recommended the the vehicle is a 3/4 to 1 ton or more to pull this configuration, because the axle and chassis is designed for the extra weight... try to put more weight as far forward as possible to help with the "fish tailing affect' use anti sway bars and stabilizers and keep your speed down. never over correct or you will flip the rear trailer over speeds of 15mph Quote
JasonR Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 ok here is the law...first off you have to have doubles endorsement to pull doubles. if you have a fifth wheel and your pulling a trailer behind it...the trailer hitch can be a ball type hitch as long as its welded and permanently installed. total length can be 60 feet in this configuration. you can pull with two ball hitch's as long as the first one is welded and length can not be longer then 50ft. highly recommended the the vehicle is a 3/4 to 1 ton or more to pull this configuration, because the axle and chassis is designed for the extra weight... try to put more weight as far forward as possible to help with the "fish tailing affect' use anti sway bars and stabilizers and keep your speed down. never over correct or you will flip the rear trailer over speeds of 15mph Quote
EY3BA11 Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 you also forget that this must be a TRUCK cannot be a truck based SUV I.E. Excursion!!! A feller once got pulled over for pulling doubles with his excursion only reason he got popped was cuz he didnt have a truck.. SUV didnt work for CHP. Quote
Free Agent Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 Thanks for the excellent replies and takes. This is a hell of a response. Quote
1BADYFZ Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 Would I just go to a hitch store to get the hitch put on my toy hauler and they should know what type of hitch is needed?... The pic with the trailer and the bost hooked up..What is needed from the DMV to do this option and also what is needed on the back of the toy hauler(Hitch set up)..is it a stage 3 set up? Quote
badams270 Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 Does this mean I have to buy 2 dumont passes for the extra trailer coming in? Quote
SandBurro Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 Does this mean I have to buy 2 dumont passes for the extra trailer coming in? ^^^^^^ No. Quote
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