Ok, so just a question here. Unfortunately holiday weekends are the only time I can get out to the dunes. What do you think the chances would be if we had a group of DDR reps talk to BLM and see if we could set up some kind of guidelines for the dunes?? Maybe there already are I don't know. As many times as I've been out there I have never been informed of any. I was just raised to respect others. Anyways, if we can get together with BLM and set up some guidelines, we could pass them out as people are entering and exiting Dumont and leave them with the vendors so people can pick them up there. Maybe that way if more people were aware they were being buttheads and that what they are doing is taking a big chance at getting the dunes closed down maybe they would think twice. Personally I would rather try that than have to change my camp site or go on an off weekend without the rest of my friends. I would be more than happy to donate my time, the paper and the copying of flyers to see if we can change this for the better. I had a good weekend and it sucks to come back and hear everyone b*tch about the buttheads. Instead of b*tching lets do something about it. Ok, I'm done, there is my 2 cents worth.