Don, take that a little further and look at the base membership for ASA. It is comprised of mostly Glamis users. They also have not been able to accomplish very much in the last several years to get the dunes reopened. Not bad mouthing the group but I truly believe that we have our own battle and we must not depend on them to "help" us out. They have a complete different area,focus and attiude than Dumont users. We can do this but it will take all of us pulling together. just my 2cents worth.