foolofsand

I agree with all the above. blm runs the dunes like obama runs the country. I dont care about the logistics of how to issue day passes and weekend passes. there is no reason for a person to pay $50 for a saturday at the dunes. there are no parks in the country that charges that outrageous amount. should be like $10/day or $25 for fri,sat and sun. there is no reason for a car with extra people and no atvs etc to even pay, that is a joke. fear not, the dune will soon be closed anyway and the blm bloats will be looking for jobs like the rest of us. :worthless_without_pics:

why u keep talkin top speed? its pointless. the winner is the one who get to the top first, you know, point A to point B 1st. now stop this long long long post

ok, I know all the laws. are YOU saying its ok to have a loaded weapon in my parked motorhome at dumont.? hope so, cuz it is. I can use it to defend myself just cant use it for target practice at the dunes. you also can carry unloaded weapon in car in cal if in trunk or in lockbox in trunk or on seat next to you. thats is in nutshell. dont need anymore on this one. thanks for the fun.

they are not too worried about someone having a weapon on them if they are pulling over for stupid things like trailer weight. ps-why do I want to go through all that hassle and then have to go go court in cal to prove my innocence when I was doing nothing wrong to be pulled over in the first place. I dont thing placing 5 patrol cars in tecopa is money well spent. how about going and getting the bad guys with that wasted manpower. :clown:

depends on apples and oranges. the law has 2 points. 1-moving a firearm in a vehicle as above 2-having a loaded firearm in your motorhome(not moving and living in it) or in your toyhauler(again not moving and living in it). they each have specific laws since they are different. I can have my weapon in my motorhome at the dunes and be ready to fire, it does not have to be in a locked container. the laws are different from transportation as opposed to a home, motel room, mh or toyhauler you are living in. just more food for thought--aint this fun

obviously, they are not too worried about it since they are pulling people over for pulling a load that is too heavy? regardless, this is harassment plain and simple. they really don't have just cause but the long hand of the law can make up one to suit their intentions. They are kinda like the BLM, how about pulling over the guys in buggies that go 90 next to camps instead of the kid that broke his whip and gets a ticket.

guess we shouldn't bring food or trash either since there are pigs that go duning, outside far enough?-- how about lets just stay home and watch tv since that is what the govt wants us to do--that IS the box

what to do?? 150 gal fresh, 50 gal poop, 50 gal grey. once the grey is full, how do I get rid of the extra 50 gal of water?? does that mean I cant use the rest of my water since I have no where to dump it? rules or whatever they are, are really logical. typical govt that doesnt have a clue in the real world. kinda like the no fireworks thingy in the middle of the desert since the rule if from the US Forest Service that the BLM adapted because they cant think for themselves. govt at its best. will get even better with obama. cant wait

they are wrong, they cant read the dmv guide. if you have a class "c" license(thats what most people have for cars and trucks), then a "j" endorsement is needed for over 10000# in tow. ( the non commercial they are talking about applies only to the "a" class which is tractor trailer type in which the tractor trailer is a non commercial vehicle better have that supervisor quote you the nrs for his reasoning. the laws are about the same for all states, they are federal guidelines

gsg-5

who did you buy from? here in town (vegas)? how much otd if I may ask?

dont know what they have closed now, but if you can get to the date farm and take the paved road and go over kingston peak. that road used to be completely over the top into cima road and I-15. you would turn off way before I-15, the road is a biggie to sandy valley and then to primm. alot of access could be closed to the california closing everything.

hope they crash and burn

hope they crash and burn:beat:

easy, go up wash to date farm, take road over mountain where mine is, drop down into sandy valley(old cima -tecopa road), over mts from sandy valley and drop into primm from west side. there shouldnt be any closed areas and this old road is basically abandoned so shouldnt be problem with atvs. done it many times on motorcycles and never see a sole anyway.

is that going to be enough for the weekend? whose popcorn is this? is it the same stuff in the cafeteria at UMC?

bob, you didnt get my point. the bottom line is that all the guys who fly race planes, they dont use avgas, but racing fuel, so why should sandrails? avgas is just about only available at small airports and most have been instructed not to sell it unless for airplanes(been that way for years). yes, it is drier that other gas, it is lighter and you should richen jets to avoid detention. avgas is rated at altitude, not sea level. this is what I know, you know what you know. dont be hatin.

do the kids have to pre-register or just show up? thanks

you had better bring plenty, I dont want to miss out, esp carmel

I had to go to costco in bakersfield for 6 volt. vegas has never had them in costco. cal has carried them in the past. got some more 6volt at sams club, I had to join for $35, but still cheaper than anything else.

avgas may be illegal now for street avgas is hard to get without pilots license and only at small airports avgas is a drier fuel, no lubrication avgas is lighter and weighs less than race fuels avgas means you have to jet richer or you will go bang avgas for engines at 2500-3000 rpm at altitude avgas is not used by high performance aircraft, they use sunoco racing fuels etc. so---------why the hassle? you want performance with a performance engine, then buy the good stuff! :stir: :trickortreat:

not dry, underground for now

this may help

they have some ammo at gun show. 380 auto sold out by 930. they still have all the rifle stuff and still some 9mm, 40 and 45. alot of bulk .223 etc. prices ok, but not great. bought a little ammo, clip for my kahr cw9 and a holster for cw9.

where u been? ammo has been scarce for over a year now. I finally after many calls and going here and ther am now stocked with 3k rounds of 9mm, .380 and 38 special. you have to continue to call and go. some gun shops have them, but at a higher price. on line has some now also, u just have to wait for the backorder to be filled.