I like mine when running with other side X sides, if you are running trails with Jeeps you are wanting to go faster, in the sand, if you are running with quads or buggies, you are holding them up, In the hard pack, if you are running with bikes or buggies you are holding them up. They are fun for sure but they definately have their own pace. Come to think of it I haven't even started mine in about a year . Anyone want a smokin deal on a 08 Rhino?